Thursday, November 15, 2007
Gay Marriage
Ok Ok Ok.. We have all heard people debate about the topic of gay marriage but what do you think? In my opinion gays are just like everyone else. I dont ask anyone what they do in their bedroom so why should I judge someone who is "different" in how they conduct their sexual activities?? I know a few gay people who are just like anyone else. (Well, they do have a better fashion sense :D) But really, why should gay and lesbian couples be denied the rights that everyone else gets? If our country truly has a seperation of church and state then why would gay marriage (regardless of the bible) be illegal? Gay and lesbian couples work with us, dine in the same restaraunts we do, live in our neighborhoods, etc. I havent ever heard of a gay gang committing harmful acts or of a lesbian cult that abducts young girls. So in the end what I am asking is why are gays and lesbians denied the rights that all other Americans enjoy (marriage, tax breaks, adopting children, etc)?
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I agree with you that gay people shouldn't be discriminated against. I don't have a problem with them doing their own thing.
You said you " . . . haven't ever heard of a gay gang committing harful acts . . . " There is still a problem of some Catholic Priests world-wide who molest young boys. As soon as these folks acknowledge that they have a problem attracting pedifiles, they can work toward a real solution.
Oh but you were asking about Gay Marriages. No doubt 100% yes! Let's get over any childish prejudice about this one. We do not want adults in adult relationships hiding their authentic selves. It's harmful to ourselves and others.
As everyone gives their thumbs up, I'll give it a thumbs down. Gay marriage should continue to be outlawed.
Why?!
Well, still till this date no one has showed significant or distinctive evidence from a board of scientist that show that people are born gay. There for giving individuals such as those that consist in homosexual acts minority or citizenship right should not be allowed.
Homosexuality is a act, not something someone is born with or something that you contract through the air or the water you drink. It was a act back in the Roman Empire and Greek times and it still an act today. If you want to say, "Well, people are born with a chromosome here or a chromosome not here" and thats what makes them that way you're wrong. Yes, individuals that are guys can have feminine characteristics and likewise females can have male characteristics. however, that does not give the incentive to climb in the sheets with another individual of the same sex(That is a whole other level).
I believe that violence against people that profess to be gay are wrong and should not be condoned. Likewise, I believe that consisting in the act of homosexuality is wrong and has no place in marriage.
Back in the early 1900's when the gay movement started to become stronger and more recognized. The agenda was to get individuals to believe that they were born this way. That way if they are able to convince people of that then they are giving minority status and with minority status comes certain rights. (Grab a History Book in the Library)
Being born black you can see that I am back therefore you are able then to say ok? Well he is black so his apart of this minority group. Someone being born a women, you can look and then see ok I can see that she is a women because of her body parts and figure. You can do that with all minorities, however, when it comes down to someone being homosexual you can only define them as a minority by their acts or actions.
Being "gay" is a act not something people are born with. Do not believe the hype, believe the facts(and still to present day we have no significant or distinctive evidence by a board of scientist showing that people are born this way).
So though i do not believe in homosexuality and i do not believe that violence is right towards them. I do believe that we need to educate people on the truth and what has actually been proved so far, instead of educated people on what we might just 'think'.
(guys lots of typos...i know lol)
-Nathan Guest
I'm with you on this. WHO CARES? Not me. I have other things to be concerned with. Some people might not like the person that I'm seeing and I'm in a heterosexual relationship but, they deal with it. Just because you aren't gay you don't want people judging the relationship your in so everyone that don't like gay relationships just leave them alone. Were all grown. Some people need to start worrying about real problems in the world other than the gay people in the world.
Gay people are human to and should have the same rights and privileges as anyone else. If they love one another who is it really hurting if they marry?
This is a prime example of prejudism. I am all for gay marriages, adoptions, etc. They are humans too! I feel that those who are against gays are very uncomfortable with their own sexualities. They act like they're afraid that someone might try to marry them. This type of scenario makes me question the whole existence of our government. Why make so many laws if they're only going to contradict each other? It seems like we as citizens would be better off running this country.
Nathan, I somewhat agree with you on this one. (Surprised, aren't you? lol) I personally do not condone homosexuality. But at the same time, I would never ostracize or harass someone because of their lifestyle. So I guess I would lean towards leaving the laws the way they are.
I believe that gay marriage is wrong because I believe that a real marriage is something that only a man and a woman can share. I don't like the concept of gay people either but because they have never done anything to harm me or my country as of yet I will not discriminate. I just don't think a gay marriage is right.
to liz m:
Surprised I am, lol. We were bound to agree upon some issue in someway sooner or later.
But, as usual you bring forth good points.
to edidiong u:
I would have to say I am not afraid of any person that practices homosexuality as you say people that do not condone Gay rights are.
No one(at least myself) has said that people that practice homosexuality are not human, but, what I said was you cannot give minority rights to a group that just practices a act and claims to be a minority. Why?! Well, it’s because homosexuality is act, not something people are born with.(Unless you or someone else has a study from a staff of respected scientist, showing significant results or information that proves that people are born gay. Thus far there is none that shows that.) Therefore, giving people that practice an act, and profess to be born a certain way rights in relation to something as respectable as marriage is not reasonable.
So though I do not believe in homosexuality and I do not believe that violence against them is right. I do believe that we need to educate people on the truth and what has actually been proved so far, instead of educated people on what we might just 'think' or ‘feel’.
The facts show so far that people are not born Homosexual. Therefore if they are not born this way, then they are not a minority and Homosexuality continues the same way it began; as purely an act that has been adapted over the years for pleasure and acceptance.
-nathang
dc said it perfectly. "We do not want adults in adult relationships hiding their authentic selves. It's harmful to ourselves and others." My best friend is a "lesbian", and actually prefers the tag "Dyke", which I find halarious. Anyhow, she and her girlfriend have a very common relationship. They do the same things "straight" people do, yet get criticised for it. Why? They pay tax dollars JUST like us, they should have rights JUST like we do. I think it's rediculous for them to be segregated.
But Nathan, would it affect your life if gays got married? Do you just think gays are less than us? Why do you feel YOU deserve to hear some scientist claim that people are "born" gay before they gain your approval to get married? And why would that change your view?
My dad always says, "Even a broken clock is right twice a day." ;)
to rocheal:
rocheal I think that’s a great set of questions, and I’ll answer each one of them.(A lot to read but hopefully you'll get the answers about what you asked me from my viewpoint)
1- Would it affect your life if gays got married? Yes, it would affect me as well as my children and those around them as well. A fact that you learn in life is that your actions, my actions, everyone’s actions affect someone else as well as themselves directly as well as indirectly. The largest way it will affect me is the fact that it demeans the sanctity of what marriage is; Something that is between a man and a woman. Something is held very high on my list to be respected. Frankly, I also believe it ranks as a moral and ethics issue as well.
2- Do you think gays are less than us? Above I explained that individuals that profess to be gay, are just as human as any person(including myself and everyone on the planet). I made sure I made that clear several times over and over in the other previous comments. They are just as human as you and I. No one(at least myself) has said that people that practice homosexuality are not human, but, what I said was you cannot give minority rights to a group that just practices a act and claims to be a minority. As well as I have stated it is not right or morally right as well(but that goes down a whole other path. They are just the same as us, heterosexual people that choose to consist in the act of homosexuality. As you say: “Do you think gays are less than us?” That is automatic assumption that people are born gay and have no choice.
3- Why do you feel YOU deserve to hear some scientist claim that people are "born" gay before they gain your approval to get married? Well, the whole scientist reference was not for ‘myself’ to be convinced about individuals that claim to born homosexual. I am not confused on this situation at all, not in the least bit. I guess the 3 rational group of questions maybe you would have to ask yourself and others would as well is:
A) Being born black you can see that a person is black therefore you are able then to say ok? Well he is black, so he is a part of this minority group. Someone being born a women, you can look and then see ok I can see that she is a women because of her body parts and figure. You can do that with ALL minorities, however, when it comes down to someone being homosexual you can only define them as a minority by their acts or actions. So therefore how are people that consist in an act itself a minority? In relation to be being born a certain way.
B) As you look through every species around the world, in order to stay in existence and in order to reproduce, there has to be a female and male transaction to create another. Likewise as humans it takes a female and male to create another individual. If the case was that we were born gay, then how would the human race stay in existence. It is not possible for two men or two women to produce offspring(maybe “pleasure” but not children). So how is the case that women were given reproduction organs that profess to be gay, that only work if used with another man?
C) If people were born gay as people claim then my question is how? I’ll tell you why I say that… We already know that two people of the same sex can’t create a child. So lets ask ourselves how does a man and a women create a gay child(not possible). The answer is really simple just as all the previous ones were. A man and a woman can create a child with brain problems, disabilities, and the list goes on, but they cannot create a child that is a different race then they are(like a gay race). So then ask yourself how do two heterosexual individuals create a homosexual person?
Last, but definitely not least as you said: “And why would that change your view?” The fact is that what a scientist would say would not actually change my mind, I referred to that for people that take and respect what scientists have to say(and I said a board or a staff of scientist, because any one scientist can anything). Personally, I believe in what the bible says and has established. That is where my belief system comes from on the issue of homosexuality and the majority of other issues.
Homosexuality is an act, not something someone is born with or something that you contract through the air or the water you drink. It was an act back in the Roman Empire and Greek times and it still an act today. If you want to say, "Well, people are born with a chromosome here or a chromosome not here" and that’s what makes them that way, you're wrong. Yes, individuals that are guys can have feminine characteristics and likewise females can have male characteristics. However, that does not give the incentive to climb in the sheets with another individual of the same sex(That is a whole other level). Sexual inclination is different from having feminine characteristics and or having male characteristics.
Exactly what I said before:
Homosexuality continues the same way it began; as purely an act that has been adapted over the years for pleasure and acceptance. Not something people are born with. Therefore, giving minority rights or any extra rights to a group of individuals that consist in an act should not be permitted in relation to rights(when they consist in a act that is there choice). Violence against anyone including individuals that profess to be gay IS wrong. Educating people on the truth and what has actually been proved so far is right, instead of educated people on what we might just 'think' or ‘feel’.
(Sorry it was so much to read, but I wanted make sure that I answered your questions in full. If not I dont mind answering anything else from my view point.)
:)
-Nathan Guest
I don't know why people are making such a big deal out of a gay marriage.If two people like each other let them get married even tho they're the same sex.One thing they should not be allowed is to adopt children.Children should grow in a family where there is a father and mother!
You write very well.
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