Hello all,
Today I thought I would talk about something extremely controversial to jump start a great blog!
George Bush…
Being in the Business world, I am usually restricted to my thoughts on how everything has played out in the last 8 years and weather or not justice has been served.
To be honest in 2001-2003 I paid less taxes per dollar earned than I did any other year I’ve been in business, I thought to myself, although he feels the need to take over the world, he’s making me a richer man so hey, let it ride. From 2004-2007 my tax payments also hit records, record highs!!! I could have never imagined paying so much tax last year and it got me thinking that his main aim was to help business owners by lowering tax for us, then what about those that he did not intend on helping, how much more did they have to pay???
Is it really legal to go to war and practically ruin a country to the point that it will take generations to bring it back up, without having any truthful proof? If Bill Clinton can be impeached for lying, then why is someone like George Bush still in office? Clinton affected no more than 5 people in what he did, I feel George Bush has not only ordered the mass killing of people, he’s killed the world markets too. It will take the world years to get back to stability.
I don’t understand how you sleep at night knowing innocent men and women are dying because you ordered them to go abroad and fight what seems to be a personal agenda!
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I agree to some extent. Although I do not personally see my taxes rise or fall (only 21 here, and not necessarily paying enough attention to my taxes as I should) I do agree on your stance regarding the war. Although in the begging I did not agree with it and thought, as you do, that he is fighting a personal vendetta, at the moment we have gotten ourselves so deep that if we pulled out now it would ruin everything we have accomplished over there. Not to mention all the solders lives that were lost would mean nothing. George Bush has made numerous mistakes in his political career, the most of them within the last 5 years. But I do want to say, if most people think back to 9/11 and how the voice of the people were cheering on Bush. The people wanted to go over there and fight (myself excluded) and now because it’s not going as planned or accomplished as fast as some would have thought, everyone is turning against Bush. I feel for the man. He is doing exactly what his people wanted, and now it has backfired. Fortunately for him, his term is almost over. I just hope we don’t elect another Clinton into office, because we know exactly what is up her sleeve.
Hello Hiren,
I can agree with you…to an extent.
President Bush and Congress have failed us with regard to National security, they has not secured our borders which is necessary to protect our country from terrorists coming in and planning (and executing) attacks right here under our noses, just like the attacks on 9/11.
This war may not be considered a “success” but we do have to fight terrorism there to prevent us from fighting it here.
However, I cannot agree that this war has practically ruined a Country. This war is partially responsible for saving those people. It may take time to rebuild parts of their country but their future generations will be free and able to live in a government with a Democrary and they will have more "Human rights" than existed before with a Dictator. Every human deserves that opportunity.
Every war every recorded in United States history has had massive blood shed, there is the price for Freedom. I truly wish there was a way around that, no American wants there to be bloodshed and loss of life but this is our reality.
As for my taxes, I cannot complain about them as my taxes have been lower since Bush took office.
Hey Kristy,
You are absolutely right about what will happen if another Clinton comes to office! Sadly, it happen if the Republicans don't get their act together soon...
I will have to agree with you that pulling out our soldiers now is a bad idea because if we do, everything that has been accomplished will be in vain, our soldiers will have died in vain.
Bush has definitely made some mistakes during his time in office. As much as he may have tried to plan and prepare, no one can predict what will happen in a War.
I have always believed from the beginning that this war was about personal vendettas and lining the pockets of certain politicians. I think the brave soldiers that are going to war are being sacrificed by a man who will stop at nothing to get what he wants. There are kids I went to high school with that have died while serving in Iraq. I have friends that are over there now too. So for the sake of the soldiers and their families I would love to see the war end.
Whether you agree with Bush's motives behind the war or not--Anyone can look at the polls and see that almost no one is satisfied with how it's being carried out. I definitely think something has got to change. Personally, I do not believe war is the answer at all. You cannot bully a nation into forming the type of government that you choose for them.
As for Clinton, I liked him and thought he was a good president. If it wasn't for the scandal while he was in the White House, he would have been remembered completely differently. Of course, what he did was wrong. Even he will tell you that. But I don't think it compares to sacrificing the lives of thousands for a personal agenda.
That's just my two cents. :)
I do have to agree with you. I was young when Clinton was in office but I am a huge Clinton fan. I don't think he made the greatest choice when he did what he did while in office but I believe it was a personal matter, not a business matter.
I don't really notice the taxes because honestly, I don't pay attention, but I agree with your stance on the war. I know I would not desire to 'run' a country while at the same time destroying another.
I agree with you, Hiren. Yesterday, 14 U.S. troops died in a helicopter accident.
That's 14 families who are waiting anxiously for the phone to ring. Wives and mothers are worried that the chaplin will knock on their door.
Going forward, I suggest we pay more attention to politicians' actions, not their words.
I dont think the Clintons should be talked about negatively. As far as being a president he did an excellent job. What he did while in office wasnt right by any means, but he should be judged for his job as a President. As far as Bush goes, he continues to put peoples lives in danger for a war that seems to have no near end. Bush has made alot of mistakes during his reign as president. Not only is he hurting people over there, but he is also hurting his own American people.
Well, I strongly agree with the war being fought for the WRONG REASONS. I have been in the military for 6yrs and participated in the WAR OF IRAQI FREEDOM in 2003-2004. Being in Iraq I asked myself everyday(What is the purpose of me being here?)and to this day still don't know the answer along with the other million soldiers in the U S Army.
Taxes, is just one of the many consequences that we as American citizens have to deal with, and to think; the reason for the rise of our taxes, are to pay for this nonsense War.
Taxes are so readily increasing and they are everywhere. You work you pay taxes, you buy food you pay taxes, you buy almost anything and pay taxes with all these taxes why is this nation getting deeper in debt? Ohhhh... Bush, Bush, Bush, what can we say the damage is done and the war on terror has shifted from BIN LADIN(did I spell that right) to Iraq and no stops were made. Even if Iraq were a nation of democracy would that make you or me feel any safer better yet if BIN LADIN(did I spell that right) were captured would that mean the war on terror is over I heard bush refer to the Vietnam war and i see some similarities but what do I know.
Roshunda,
It goes without saying, but I'm glad you're here.
Roshunda,
I second Ms. Chapman's reply.
No matter what your stance on the war is, as a fellow American, I have the utmost respect for you and everyone in the military. You are the reason we are able to freely speak our minds here on this blog today. God bless you and I am glad you made it home!
I just want to say how grateful I am that we live in a society where we are free to discuss these issues and believe whatever we want to.
I spent the last 18 years being a military wife, I have seen hard times as friends were killed in action as well as having to send my own husband to Kuwait and Iraq. However, I have also witnessed great accomplishment in otherwise hopeless areas. My family was in Berlin, Germany when the wall fell and I saw the love and concern there was for the military and all they do. I have been in many areas where your thoughts and feelings were of no concern. Being an American is what I consider the greatest of all my blessings.
I voted for George Bush because I am certain he wants to do what is right. I do not always agree with the choices he makes, but I also know that his way is not always the way things turn out. There are many other people in Washington who have great control over the President and I feel he does the best he can. I am grateful he was willing to take on the position because I know I sure couldn't do much better.
GOD BLESS THE USA
I guess I really don't know what to say about this subject. I really don't keep up with to many politics. Only reason being is nothing ever happens the way we want it to. Although the last two elections I did vote, in hopes to get Bush out of the office. I agree with the whole tax thing. Bush only wants to make the rich, richer, and the poor, poorer. The economy has really taken a hit from him. Now, as far as the war is concerned . . .
Everyone in the world wanted to go over and kick butt when 9-11 occured.. But, it has in my opinon been drawn out way to long!! So many soldiers have lost their lives. Yes, they knew the consequences behind it when they inlisted. But still, let's give it a rest now. I can only imagine how the friends, and family members of 9-11 feel. But I really feel like it's time to let by gones be by gones. I think enough lives have allready been taken. All I can say is the politicians know exactly what to say when their up for election. But we really do need to take into consideration that "Actions speak louder than words"!!
I believe Hiren you bring up a great topic that has a lot of views and opinions. However, I believe that it is important to look at the the whole situation and the actual facts that we have to support our claims on. As another individual that is directly involved in the business world as stock broker and small business investor. I also deal direcly and indirectly with the changes that Bush has done with the economy. If you look at the whole picture, many individuals forget that George Bush "inherited" a crippled economy as of Sept. 11th. Now we deal with a much different economy, which has been on a upward scale ever since 2001 and that devasting time our country has went through. Talking in reference to the war. Great Topic. I do not necessairly know the exact reason that we infiltrated the Iraq at start, but I do know why we are there now. The reason I say that is, because back when we first attacked Iraq the topic was weapons of mass destruction. However, we didn't find adequate resources and, or suppilies to support that actual claim. But, we were able to support the claim that Saddaam was in the business of trafficking weapons of mass destruction. But, as we all know at the begining of the war this was all confusing; Was it the weapons of mass destruction we went in for?, Was it to dethrone Saddaam?, or Was it for the oil? There have been many claims about all those cases but, again noone knows fissure. Our goverment has said it to be over Saddaam and his evil practices; which adds up to a point. However, now what we are in Iraq and the Middle East for, is to restore a crumbling region plagued by war, unrest, terroism, and communism, to a much needed "democracy". The way we are able to help the whole region of the Middle East to take a step in the right direction, first takes establishing Iraq(politically, economically, and Defensively). That is the only way that we can help the surronding region of the Middle East. The question is if we don't and if we do decide to pull out early before the job completely done in Iraq; What will be the consequences?.
The consequences for America would be horrible, to pull-out of Iraq anytime before Iraq has been established in all those ways I listed above. Talking to most soliders in my family and historians that I know they've always said the same thing: "We would rather fight them over there, then fight them over here at home". And believe it or not, if we do not fight them there, they will come here to America. Going to Iraq at start wasn't necessairly a bad idea, as some individuals and some media would state. However, the plan that was used going into Iraq was flawed, which is what is echoing now. Although, now we have changed our stragedy and things are getting much better if you look at the actually facts(instead of the media coverage). I believe the quotation Colin Powell said when leaving office on the brink of Bush's Second Term was very true: "We forgot that when you break something, you have to fix it." It's hard to predict what long term reprocutions can come and would be after the war first started. Tha goes for any war, if you look throught the duration of history.(You make the best plans as possible and they don't always work so it calls for that country to adapt and overcome to come out victorious). The great thing is that we are on the right track now, a little late, but we have plan and we are working it well. I think the thing that upsets me a lot is the fact, that Americans doubt us winning the "war" in Iraq. I hold heartedly believe that if our Armed Forces go anywhere and work to the best of their ability we can conquer and accomplish anything set in front of us. However, what it takes is support from those arround them and us here in America. This war has been too politically induced. Too many politicians are "politick-ing" the war, and in more of a negative way then positive. I have many family memebrs that are in the military and have went on tour in Iraq and they always say the same thing when they come back or are over seas: "What's on the TV here(in America) and coming out of these politicians mouths are totally different then whats actually going on in Iraq." I believe we should leave things that deal with war up to the indivduals that understand and deal with war, which is our military. And leave politics up to politicians and stop putting the two so closely together. It hurts more then helps and divides a country instead of doing what is really needed, which is bringing each other together to work to a point of peace and stability.
Though I am not a big supporter of George Bush and is Administration. I do take the time to look at the full entirety of his term. When I do see more Pro's then Con's. I believe that we listen and focus on the media's take on Bush instead of looking at the actual facts, and measuring them in full. There are so many things that Clinton did in his Administration and his term in office that Bush did as well, that were blown completely out proportion. If anyone wants a list i dont mind compiling one. There are many reasons that President Bush is attacked and many levels in reference to the media, I can list many valid reason too. But, to weigh the positive with the negative, he has definitely helped more then hurt.
What it takes to see this is watching less media and doing more research.
-Nathan A. Guest
Hiren,
Don't you want to respond?
i will be the first to admit i do not know the facts about bush and his accomplishment though i would like to see them. i also have no complaints about his terms as president. but i do have concerns about Bush's value of life! September 11th was a very troubling time for our nation and it affected us all but a lot of misconception over this war followed by false commitments to the American families has me filled with doubts about the safety of Americans. Please don't get me wrong, to be a soldier that fights to ensures the safety of people is a noble and honorable thing, so i to commend each and every military personal for their courage to go into any war. But a what rate is war measured?
To empower an idea such as world unity means everyone is on the same page and if that is not the case then all is lost. In turn Economical ideas are not joint so American wages are declining partly due to the selling of business and outsourcing which from a world point of view is good but we as the Americans suffer.
Furthermore, to bring a change for the betterment of the Iraq is beautiful, to reconstruct a nation for the betterment of business is also beautiful, but to do this on the lives a of mislead and grief stricken people is wrong and immoral.
I have many different feelings about the war. I definitely disagree with your comment about "how can you sleep at night knowing men and women are being killed". In my opionion they chose to enlist therefore they new what potentially they could be getting themselves into. (NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THE WAR) but these people enlisted to serve their country regardless of their personal opionions on the matter.
Hiren,
I disagree with your comment that George Bush is at fault for our economy.I believed no matter who won the election we as a country would be in the same position we are right now. No one wants war and no one wants to see people die, but those soliders new the job they took when they enlist. Not to sound cold but the soliders know the job and what can possiblely happen in the army.
I think it is too easy to say that we shouldn't be in this war or that we should pull out. Saddam Hussein repeatedly violated United Nations Security Council Resolutions. He used WMDs on his own people. He supported terrorism. What else do you need to be convinced that we needed to go to war with him? The inspectors didn't find the WDMs but there were images of large items being moved out of his county at night, in which, some experts say were the WDMs. Is it so hard to believe that he had the WDMs removed before they could be discovered? Again, he used WDMs on his own people so I think that qualifies for ‘having WMDs.’
In the media, we hear an outcry regarding the number of soldiers that have been lost in this war. Yes, the number is high. I think, to-date it is 3,733. I am thankful for those who made the ultimate sacrifice and to their families who have suffered more that I will ever know. These soldiers died for a cause. I want to point out that 3,368 people in California, alone, committed suicide in 2004 (2005-2007 statistics not available on CDC's website yet). No loss of life is OK but maybe we should be more concerned about why so many people are dying right under our noses and they aren’t even fighting terrorism.
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